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Re: I want to divorce my iPhone (Scripting News)

Sylvestre Cooke — Sun, 14 Jun 2015 06:18:05 -0000

You need a hacker, get at cyberspidermann@gmail.com

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way0utwest — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:44:49 -0000

I jailbroke my iPhone, not for geek access or free stuff, but because I want to use T-Mobile. I also paid for wi-fi sync, and got backgrounding, and am happy to pay for products that work.

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maxkalehoff — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:29:54 -0000

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Re: I want to divorce my iPhone (Scripting News)

Mike Cane — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:49:31 -0000

Stop it. You'll never get a divorce. No, really. I'm not being snide or sarcastic, either. You know the device is too damned good. And I understand your spiritual objections. At some point Apple is going to *have* to make iTunes a platform. The pile of crap that's been accumulating at their doorstep will soon become too large for them to deal with. They can make more from the damned iTunes platform software, server sales, and service fees. They don't need the current headaches they're creating -- for themselves, for developers, for users, and for the future. All this was plain to see way back in 2007:
http://mikecane.wordpress.c...

Re: I want to divorce my iPhone (Scripting News)

la5rocks — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:20:03 -0000

You and I both like Sony stuff. Perhaps ATT's Sony C905a may be worth considering?

1. Good phone
2. Very good camera (a real one) with GPS tagging - what do you mean by a camera that can communicate?
3. Has bluetooth, and I know my older Sony can bluetooth tether; I would expect this one can, too.

Re: I want to divorce my iPhone (Scripting News)

fahrni — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:38:02 -0000

Dave, I know this is coming late but I think the Palm Pre could be the right device for you, especially since you're already a Sprint customer. For $70.00 a month, you get EVERYTHING; voice, data, texting, etc...

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kcecelia — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:52:39 -0000

Oh geez, you are right. Now I am too scared to go to bed! I saw Coraline alone at a theatre on the Peninsula late one evening and then drove home to SF freaked out. (Okay, I am very impressionable. I admit it.) It was quite real and the best 3D I have ever witnessed. (I am not very experienced with 3D since I tend to see a lot of European art films, but still...) The sewing needle coming right out of the screen at the audience was an impressive beginning. But those eyes...yes, those eyes were of zombie people who have lost all connection with human decency.

BTW, love your comment below, "To everyone who says "Android -- Dave, you'll love Android" -- I feel almost the same about Google as I do about Apple. I read the article about this Sidebar Wiki thing and their product manager said it was just like blogging. I suppose if you have no soul it's just like blogging." Very nice. Reminds me of the "old" days. At least of my "old" days at my first job working for Dan Lynch who oversaw all the main frames at SRI. Lots of people trying to invent amazing things to improve peoples' lives not make a million dollars and/or please a million shareholders.

Re: I want to divorce my iPhone (Scripting News)

Chuck Shotton — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:17:49 -0000

Of course you can. That wasn't my point. Jailbreaking an iPhone (or Android phone for that matter) only gets you 2 things, geek level shell access, etc. (useless to 99.9% of users) and ways to circumvent paying for stuff the carriers would otherwise charge you for (tethering, WiFi restricted apps, etc.) There is no viable economic model for developing jailbreak-only apps, so my point was that there's really no compelling reason beyond free tethering to do it. Specifically, jailbreaking your phone gives maybe a half-dozen extra (quality, useful) apps over the app store. So what?

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JimRoepcke — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:09:17 -0000

You can still use the App Store if your phone is jailbroken. So once you have the freedom to make and use whatever software you want, there's no reason not to use apps from the App Store, except perhaps punitively against Apple. In which case, that's your problem.

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ryanh — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:07:37 -0000

What apps are missing on a jailbroken iphone? I'm honestly curious.

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ryanh — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:04:47 -0000

I don't know the iphone well enough to comment on what jailbreaking can provide. I can only speak about what I know, and what I thought Dave might be interested in.

For me, tethering was a big deal. In fact, Dave specifically mentioned tethering as an important feature. For whatever reason, tmobile seems much less concerned about rooting than AT&T/Apple is with the iPhone. Apple has dropped legal threats in the press about jailbreaking. Maybe Dave doesn't want to "go there" with the iPhone.

Obviously rooting isn't for most people, but it enabled an important feature for me, and may be of interest to Dave.

Re: I want to divorce my iPhone (Scripting News)

Chuck Shotton — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:52:49 -0000

What did you list that you DON'T get with a 30 second rooting of an iPhone? Problem is that with either platform, jailbreaking it doesn't get you any quality software. It gets you a few specific hacks (tethering, file system access) that the cheap geek might be interested in. Otherwise, name a single app that this gains you on any platform that would have mass appeal if it were allowed on a normal, locked phone. Jailbreaking doesn't have an incentivized economy behind it. It's not the answer.

Re: I want to divorce my iPhone (Scripting News)

Chuck Shotton — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:49:07 -0000

ding! ding! ding! Well, mostly. Problem is that the "missing" apps that you'd like to have are generally too complicated for the average jailbreak hacker to undertake without the economy of the app store to compensate them. And Apple won't let their apps in the store. So there's a horrible Catch 22. I think at some point Apple has to loosen its grip on the approval process. And maybe they'll wake up and allow Flash and Java and all the other stuff we'd like to have. And, yeah, monkeys are gonna fly out of my butt. Sadly, the alternatives all suck right now.

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Stanley_Krute — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:51:47 -0000

Two Android standouts: Sprint HTC Hero or Motorola CLIQ.

Some links to Hero reviews: http://phandroid.com/2009/0...

Early hands-on look at a CLIQ: http://www.pcmag.com/articl...

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dave — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:08:11 -0000

Esp since my MiFi is Sprint! :-)

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ryanh — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:12:12 -0000

Wow. My message to Google:

Google, I don't understand what you are doing here. This is how you sour the relationship with developers. Guess who runs these roms? Developers do! These are the people you need to write software for your OS.

Google, why don't you kick the lawyers and strategist weenies to the curb and "get real" with developers. You have a nice opportunity to counter Apple through openness, but this isn't the way to getter done.

Re: I want to divorce my iPhone (Scripting News)

Nicolas — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:12:49 -0000

@ Dave: for option 1, 2 and 3 I'd definitelly recommend you get a Nokia N95, one of Nokia's most versatile mobile phones. It just does as great as the iPhone (and does #2 even better with its 5Mpx camera). Or you can wait for Nokia's N900... Whatever solution you come up with at the end good luck with ur "divorce" ;)

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andrejmrevlje — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:38:03 -0000

If you don't tweet, don't care about the data transmission speed or slownes of gps, that any nokia is a phone you use. i was 10 years on various nokia communicators, which are now too expensive, to slow ( even for simple emailing) and too heavy. so i am tempted by something like iPhone, but enraged by their commercial policy. good luck,

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andrejmrevlje — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:37:21 -0000

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Steve Jones — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:32:30 -0000

I thought my G1 was the best phone ever. I used it from Jan - Sep of this year. Things worked well, it was stable, far better than any Windows Mobile device. I don't like Blackberry's as they fundamentally don't work as well for me. It's a UI thing.

I used my iTouch extensively for music and reading. So I switched to an unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile. I think it's much, much better than the G1 because it's more mature. It also gives me convergence of one less device. If you really want to move, I'd consider an Android device.

HOWEVER, I think that all these companies are self-serving. It's the nature of the beast. apple gets more press here, just like Microsoft in the OS space, and Google in the search space, on the things they do wrong. It's an argument that I think you ought to make with the FCC, ICC, and other regulators. Using an iPhone, and having it be a large market, means that it stands out to politicians. If you complain about a Palm VII device, no one cares, because they have no market share.

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kricac — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:29:53 -0000

Get an Android device ...

Just got a Samsung Galaxy and it seems nice thus far ...

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EwanG — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:04:01 -0000

Assume everyone who's recommending the Android because it's so "open" have seen the recent article on Google sending a Cease and Desist letter to the Cyanogen folks? I learned my lesson after I developed my first (and only) Android app and found Google changing the rules between when I started and when I was ready to deliver.

As for jailbreaking the iPhone, I have a 3Gs, and I gather those aren't jail-breakable currently.

So, guess I'll just have to keep waiting for a phone that values me as a customer rather than as a monthly check...

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John — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:56:54 -0000

No company besides Apple and Palm currently "gets" that the phone should be a platform. Nokia N900s and N97s will be dead with no new APIs and platform updates after 6 months. That's exactly what happened to the otherwise excellent N71 (which I would recommend as a backup phone anytime). Until Nokia gets this, don't bother. The same goes for all Blackberries and Android devices. All HTC phones (besides the Motorola "Cliq" the only ones available), have only 384MB of "application memory". That means: you can't install applications outside of these 384MB. It's absolutely ridiculous!

After all is said and done I wouldn't look at any phone that hasn't got a capacitive touchscreen with multitouch or no touchscreen at all. You will want to use a web browser and anybody who has ever used an iPhone will want to gauge their eyes out after using any Android device. The MyTouch browser is so bad that usually only the people who have one can stand it :-).

For using a phone with a web browser, there is simply nothing that beats the iPhone. There will be, someday, but for now each and every other company that makes mobile phones uses either a resistive touchscreen, makes literally _fat_ devices that don't fit in your pocket, doesn't support multitouch and/or they stop supporting it after 6 months. I want to get rid of my iPhone, but there's simply nothing that plays in its league usability-wise.

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kgopal — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:51:14 -0000

I'm doin the same, trashing the iphone. I have looked at the following.

-- Nokia E71
-- Nokia E63 (great battery life on both)
-- Blackberry Storm.
-- G1 Android developer (I love the slider thingie)

If you decide on what to get, do let us know.

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Les Orchard — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:10:29 -0000

I'd second the recommendation for the Palm Pre. I love mine, and have started really digging the OS after releasing two small apps to the homebrew community. The only major downsides might be that 1) Sprint doesn't want you to tether with it, and 2) even if you did use the "forbidden" homebrew tethering app, it's Sprint, and would probably have the same dead spots as your MiFi