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It is not hard to find a netbook with Linux, far from it! Actually the Eee's was Linux first, XP came later. All the major sellers of netbooks (Acer, Asus, Dell, Wind) offers both XP and Linux versions.
Or does the device then fall under some category other than "Laptop" ?
Defining a hardware spec coupled with software which could be multiple choices is hardly a fitting definition.
the netbook I chose was the Acer Aspire One and to get the non-SSD HD I needed to chose an XP setup, 160GB as compared to 8GB, big difference especially since one major roles my netbook has is storing my photos while on travel.
Pic of my new Netbook http://tinyurl.com/3sys5u versus Latitude. How did i get it?? http://tinyurl.com/6rwgh9
Are the *programmers* deciding which bugs get fixed? Or the program managers? To me, Microsoft's biggest stumbles have been the product management arena, not the technical space. Vista is a result of poor management.
The operating system team grown by Cutler around the release of NT/NT4 is one of the best in the business. Getting rid of them would be a huge mistake.
From the user community? Upgrading Ubuntu 7.4 to 7.10 required me, a user, modifying the source of the upgrader. I'm a fan of Linux, don't get me wrong.
XP is great, no doubt. They should keep it around. But the OS will continue to change. That's a given. Getting rid of the best asset they have makes no sense.
I think "Net"books are new categories when they are considered as appliances (i.e. with a custom software experience [usually in Linux, I'm sure] with the focus of compatibility placed squarely on the browser and not the operating system), but requirements #7 and #9 preclude that.
It's not about proclaiming that one OS is equivocally better than another, because nobody can make that decision for anyone else. ;)
Having said that, there's room in the netbook market for every OS in my opinion. I've run them all on netbooks: various Linux distros, XP, Vista, Windows 7, and OS X. From a hardware standpoint they all work. From a choice standpoint, they should all be considered based on your individual needs.
XP is the "lightest" current Windows OS available on netbooks today and I think Dave's point is well taken in that Microsoft might want to reconsider killing off XP. They've already moved the end date a time or two and I suspect that in the end, it WILL go away in favor of Windows 7. Time will tell.
Netbook size, small but with screen on back of regular screen for cell phone mode display.
Has integrated 3G, wifi, bluetooth.
Detachable Bluetooth headset, vibrates, shows caller id on tiny screen.
I want one. I'm alywas carrying a laptop anyway. What would such a device be called?
After browsing specs for days and days I decided to make it a bit easier for other people and threw up a database. I still need to populate it with some more info, but it should be handy to a few people.
http://www.netbooktracker.com
You can browse around and hit compare on any of the models in the database (sort of like a shopping cart). Then whenever you visit the compare page it shows a lineup between the models you selected. Keeps out the guesswork for sure.
Or if not what are they key desktop apps you tend to use. I ask because I don't own a netbook and am curious about why the OS is important if I do buy one.
(On my laptop I use the Web for my mail and rss apps, and would gladly switch for music (if I didnt have so many DRMed itunes tracks) and image editing (but I need blur) and video editing (not yet a Web thing, but who does that on a netbook). And Web post writing (ecto).)
I think a basic definitiion is a lot simpler. A netbook imo is a laptop that you use almost exclusively for connecting to the *net. It has all the capabilities a normal laptop would if it was used for only connecting to the *net, looses all the added laptop features that aren't needed and gains features that make it more portable (such as size, weight, battery life and cost).
I think the wikipedia definition is pretty close to that too: "A netbook is a light-weight, low-cost, energy-efficient, highly portable laptop suitable for web browsing, email and general purpose applications"
As for Apple, the only difference I can find between Apple hardware and PC hardware is the BIOS/Firmware. Apple uses a very customized version of a standard Intel BIOS/Firmware which I suspect can not be reverse engineered without violating tons of Apple patents and copyrights. So in theory, since Asus makes some of Apple's laptops, Apple could have a netbook to sell without too much trouble. Just redesign the Asus EEE PC case a little and viola, an Apple netbook. Note that Apple already has an embedded version of OSX/Darwin. It currently is complied to run on an ARM processor, but I would expect a quick recompile and they would be good to go.
Don't get me wrong: an embedded OS for a netbook isn't a bad idea and I've called for one ages ago. However, it's not an idea that's implemented yet in mainstream netbooks. Additionally, there are plenty of standard notebooks that have embedded processors, so I'm not sure how or why you're making a distinction here.
Intel has done the same thing. 486 processors were available to the embedded systems folks long after they were denied to the commercial system folks. Since it doesn't cost very much to keep a product around and milk it for more revenue, as long as their main market is"protected," there is no reason to kill a product that is bringing in "extra" money.
That being said, Atom is a new chip that was originally designed for the embedded market (cell phones and the like) and I suspect that Intel has mixed feeling about netbooks because while they are a nice revenue stream, they cannibalize sales from the much higher margin laptop business. Remember that while development costs for chips is very high, the actual daily production cost per chip is very low (approaching zero in some cases). Given that, which would you rather sell, a Core-duo for big bucks or a an Atom for a lot less, given that the production costs for both is similar?
Windows CE, Windows XP, Linux and MacOS are among the most popular operating systems in the embedded market these days, which means ont he OS side, the only real difference between the commercial market and the embedded market is just marketing spin. These days, for most embedded systems, there is no difference between commercial and embedded operating systems
The CPU makers differentiate between the commercial market and the embedded market a little more definitively. While Intel and Amd are the only commercial CPU vendors, there are lots of embedded CPU vendors in addition to Intel and AMD. Traditionally, the embedded CPU market was concerned more with cost than performance, so embedded CPUs tended to be commercial CPUs rebranded after their commercial life (8041, 486, etc). Recently though, several companies have designed CPUs specifically for the embedded market and the Intel Atom is one of these.
The bottom line is that for all practical purposes the commercial and embedded markets are the same from a technical perspective, but "different" from a licensing/marketing perspective.
So if an "embedded" design can be used to satisfy a "commercial" market need, so be it. The only "losers" will be the component vendors (MS and Intel in the case of netbooks) who will make less profit.
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thanks, Dave!
I removed Windows and installed Linux.
Now if someone made a list like you do about the netbooks and says Windows as a requirement for laptops (since most laptops do come with windows), then does that make my laptop NOT a laptop any more since I removed windows and installed Linux ?
This is what alot of people say about Linux too. And when you get into things like Ubuntu and Fedora, alot of newer things can be run. Saving bout $150 (at least) on a netbook is an added perk.
Many thanks, Phil
If netbook doesnt have any dvd/cd drive even then you can connect your printer to your netbook
and you can install drivers of the printer using Flash Drive, Copy drivers of the printer from Uni computer into your data traveller, and install in your netbook
basic computer use, email, web and more. Easy anytime-anywhere internet access, built-in web cam plus stereo speakers.
Netbooks run either Windows XP or Linux.
1) Size, Netbooks have 9- or 10-inch screens, weigh from 2 to 3 pounds, and sport keyboards sized from 80 percent to 95 percent of normal. (80-85 keys)
2) Price, Netbooks start at about $330 for a Linux-based model and $350 for an XP-based machine.
3) Features, * Screen resolution 1024x600
* Intel Atom CPU running at 1.6-GHz
* Wi-Fi B and G
* Ethernet at 100Mbps
* A slot for a flash RAM memory card
* External VGA output jack
* Integrated graphics
* Two or three USB ports
* Built-in camera ****No bluetooth
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