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Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

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Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

Jesse Stay — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:39:53 -0000

LOL - I just realized this was re-posted from awhile ago and I had already told you this. :-) Well, good read again, anyways.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

Jesse Stay — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:39:02 -0000

Is there a tune to that?

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

Jesse Stay — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:38:37 -0000

Well written, Dave! I agree completely.

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Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

sull — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:06:22 -0000

this sounds similar to my arguments about hulu.
eventually, the major networks will come back full circle to their senses and plant their media exclusively on their own damn site(s) and let people surf to them ike they surf to their tv channels. nothing new. hulu imo is destined to be left to dissipate or be absorbed by one of the partners... maybe left up for a while but ultimately, traffic will be encouraged to go to different urls setup for video distribution. ABC.com is a great example.

so yeah, you're right that eventually, after the initial hype and getting drunk on twitter.... the big peeps will be better suited to start their own real-time messaging services and stop giving free marketing to twitter.
like you said, it's not too hard considering the money that's already being spent and made by these mega-entities.

i personally like twitter and want them to conitnue to succeed. but i also want things federated and they should be part of that when it happens.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

Shéamus — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:37:53 -0000

Who has no-one to talk to? You can look at the profiles of the smallest users (in a followers sense) and they're nearly all busy bees. You pays your money and makes your choice. I think the 'pick up and play' nature of Twitter is one of the main reasons why it works so well. Just follow a few people and have at it.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

BradWilliamson — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:18:37 -0000

Twitter has no more than a year to reinvent itself, or else it will die from the backlash it's destined to receive from all the users who started an account only to realize that they had no one to talk to.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

Erik — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:12:45 -0000

"There's a lot of money to be made in these networks and it costs so little to start one. "

What money?

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Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:12:17 -0000

I agree following is a powerful feature other sites should use, but the opportnity is for twitter and fb to be the open network people use to distribute info and their info can be read anywhere. Twitter does this. It's hard to give users something worth visiting each day as a twitter feed has done, so really it's now the new rss feed, and ppl are welcome to make their own readers. Rss doesn't work as well to date because there's no easy way to connect with friends as well or present updates in as user friendly of a way. Ppl use fb connect bc it lifts conversion to logged in users and you get to publish to the stream. Same goes for using twitter to access all those active users. Twitter is offering distribution value you can't just build from scratch so easily for the same reasons you can't just rebuild fb. Both must be open though to make this all work without fear of getting locked in.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

Erik — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:11:20 -0000

Twitter has a strategy? The product essentially hasn't changed in two years. Frankly, it still sucks, but the nature of short-from content with asymmetric following is inherently addictive. They fell backwards into this explosive growth.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

jon — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:59:27 -0000

Good Morning America makes money by selling 30-second TV ads (and makes lots of it, about $600m of ads are sold annually for GMA). They do cross promotion, but that doesn't pay the bills. They also promote other people's stuff, which would be considered a loss if you're counting self promotion as a gain. A free "host your own twitter" isn't going to work the same way GMA does.

Twitter is losing money, opening the platform up which will dilute their brand will only increase their burn rate.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

Hmmm — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:54:48 -0000

Has anyone noticed the popular names in tech have double letters: Apple, Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Twitter, FriendFeed, Yammer, Mozilla, Seesmic, etc. Hulu sounds similar enough, but should they add another 'u' for good measure? Huulu or Huluu, or maybe even Huloo?

Reminds me of the plot in the movie "Man of the Year" starring Robin Williams.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

Srini Kumar — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:14:09 -0000

Nobody down here is going to compete effectively with Twitter, but Friendfeed's very name is just *asking* to be Friendsterized. A celebrity-dominated Twitter sounds awful. I think there is a very big brand opportunity for "other Twitters" but I don't think celebrities is it.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

BarbaraKB — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:34:08 -0000

Dave, you make great points *but* use of words "twitter" and "tweeting" growing like "google" and "googling" once did. At some point, it becomes not about the tech. I would argue others have tried (Jaiku, identi.ca, Plurk, FriendFeed, Yammer) to unseat Twitter and have failed. Why? Twitter remained simple and "open" enough for the general, non-tech user *like* a journalist from a major newspaper or blog who wanted immediate news and information. Peace to your day!

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

danja — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:26:58 -0000

Right.

Note that laconi.ca has a couple of differentiating characteristics:

1. it's open source
2. it has considerably better connection to the Web of Data than Twitter (supporting RSS/RDF and FOAF) - which means it'll be far more straightforward to interconnect independent systems compared to those using semi-proprietary APIs

Only a subjective observation, but 2. does seem to make it more appealing to geeks than Twitter, e.g. http://identi.ca/timbl

Then again, it's not either-or, clients like Gwibber can post/read from multiple microblogging networks.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

Shéamus — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:01:37 -0000

If Twitter is the success it appears to be, why wouldn't and couldn't there be just one of them? There's only one Google. One eBay. There are competitors, but they're jokes, relatively.

Something similar may surpass Twitter.com as a micro-blogging network - much like Google did with Yahoo, Lycos, Alta Vista and so on - but I don't see any reason why diluting the news feed would be productive for the internet, and because of that reason I don't see it happening. Lots of Twitters = lots of small clusters of noise, as opposed to one large one you can filter to your whim. What might happen, I feel, is one major aggregator could become the 'Twitter' by collating the information of everybody else, but I still think that's less likely that having one main network that everybody is a part of. Barring a couple of overly-hyped, under-successful attempts, I don't see any reason why every celebrity under the sun is going to go on their own. There's a lot of money to be made for the best network; the others are likely to be quickly-forgotten fodder.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

EhabM — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:39:20 -0000

I think Twitter hit mainstream before Jaiku could. Esp with twitter being on the news almost everyday.

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EhabM — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:36:36 -0000

wow. A very insightful article. I can see people buying and selling twitter names like domain names.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

Kubric — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:59:14 -0000

There won't be many twitters. If there were going to be, we'd see the successful seeds of them already. There have been numerous clones already, and they all have the same problem: traction. You want your own twitter? You can do that now; why not get started? Oh yeah, that's right: you'd need to keep pimping Winerer over on the real Twitter in order for people to find out about it and keep them coming back. It's kind of like suggesting that in two years there will be many Googles. There are plenty of other search engines, but for the most part, everyone keeps coming back to Google.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

shokk — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:46:49 -0000

FriendFeed needs a clone that will hook into FriendFeed itself, where the clone is the lite version and FriendFeed itself is the advanced version. This could lead to a Pro or advertiser based system. The time is now to fork the Twitter idea. Will this FriendFeed clone be ready with features that Twitter doesn't have, while hooking into it to co-opt everyone back into FriendFeed? Will it be OAuth ready while Twitter is still getting its feelers out for that. Do users care about that stuff? Is FriendFeed even ready for that kind of server load?

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

dave — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:13:22 -0000

If I had to bet on it -- I'd bet that you nailed it.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

Nick Molnar — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:10:35 -0000

You're right that this is a problem for them, but I don't think it's a deliberate part of their strategy. I suspect this is just a case of unexpectedly giving a few people a massive amount of power without time to adjust their organization to the responsibility of it. There does seem to be an acceptance that Twitter is too big to control or successfully manage, and that is why they are so reliant on the API and Twitter apps for innovations on top of the service.

Re: Why there will be many Twitters (Scripting News)

Guest — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:57:29 -0000

Interesting post and extremely foretelling. I wonder if people will feel worried that Twitter is becoming an all too powerful media network?