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Re: XMPP as the basis for interop in TwitterLand? (Scripting News)

JP — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:59:34 -0000

Twitter *is* based on XMPP.

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Nick Vidal — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:38:50 -0000

Take a look at ISS (Instant Syndicating Standards). ISS is a set of open standards that enable people to discover and syndicate information within their social network. It blends the Web and XMPP in an elegant way.

Re: XMPP as the basis for interop in TwitterLand? (Scripting News)

Utilisateur — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:25:01 -0000

This has been in the air for a while - http://serendipity.ruwenzor...

I guess it is slowly creeping into everyone's mindshare...

Re: XMPP as the basis for interop in TwitterLand? (Scripting News)

Kin Lane — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:58:48 -0000

Very nice.....I have been asking for this for a while now. With Twitter crashing during Mac Expo.....and everyone talking about using micro blogging for disaster support scenarios a decentralized micro blogging would be huge!

Re: XMPP as the basis for interop in TwitterLand? (Scripting News)

kael — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:54:56 -0000

Additionally, see also Ralph Meijer's presentation Federated Social Networks.

He's the co-author of XEP-0060, was at Jaiku and is the developer of Idavoll, an implementation of a generic publish-subscribe service component for Jabber servers, which now supports an HTTP-XMPP Pubsub gateway. ;)

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James — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:56:38 -0000

I seem to recall a Scoble interview with the twitter guys where they mentioned that twitter used jabber under the hood

Re: XMPP as the basis for interop in TwitterLand? (Scripting News)

Aaron Johnson — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:07:24 -0000

> Does XMPP support a pub-sub style interface
yes, you can read all about it here: http://www.xmpp.org/extensi...

If you're interested in writing something with Openfire, you can check out the XMPP bot that I wrote for Openfire to do instant notifications of RSS changes, it's a component that lives inside the server, much like what Joe talked about above:

http://cephas.net/projects/...

Cheers,

Re: XMPP as the basis for interop in TwitterLand? (Scripting News)

Joe Beda — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:09:00 -0000

I'm sure the Google Talk team would love to have you build an app on top of Talk. (I switched off the Talk team a little while ago). However, based on what I think you want out of twitter, talking to Google that way may not be what you want.

There are two ways to talk XMPP/Jabber. The first is C2S -- where you write a client that can connect to a server. You can write a bot to connect to the Google server, but be aware that you may hit some limits as we really built the system for users, not bots.

The other way is S2S -- where you are another server that connects to Talk. The name of your bot/service wouldn't be @gmail.com but would rather be hosted on your own server with your own domain. In this case you have a lot more freedom to implement the server in whatever way you want. This is the way the twitter bot interacts.

There is *really* a lot to like about XMPP S2S. It is very open much in the model of SMTP. When a message to "joebob@mydomain.com" is seen, the server will do a DNS lookup (SRV record), call that server and deliver the message. Check out xmpp.org for all of the specifications and a list of server implementations to start playing with. If you want to be *really* fancy you can write your own server, but I would suggest you start with something off the shelf to play with.

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Nick Johnson — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:29:55 -0000

Does XMPP support a pub-sub style interface, or would it have to be layered over it? Broadcast by having the originator unicast to every follower seems inefficient.

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rossj — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:44:31 -0000

Did you see that TLS and SASL PLAIN are required for authentication with gtalk?

You could try working with OpenFire to get started it's reasonably easy to use as a server.
http://www.igniterealtime.o...

Re: XMPP as the basis for interop in TwitterLand? (Scripting News)

kyounger — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:03:56 -0000

i'm trying the same thing.

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bear — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:25:49 -0000

We are also doing XMPP notifications at Seesmic. PubSub is being worked on now.